(Le) Hobbit : Un Voyage Inattendu (Peter Jackson)

[roland_de_lassus]

Mais que fait Brigitte Bardot ?
Hécatombe d'animaux chez les Hobbit.

[wookie]

Mais que fait Brigitte Bardot ?
Hécatombe d'animaux chez les Hobbit.

sérieusement, si la PETA s'en mêle, ça sera assez mauvais pour l'image du film (et ça semble justifier vu l'article).
Vu l'idéologie que véhicule l'œuvre, avec un Tolkien assez proche de la nature, ...ça la fou mal.

[Cylon]

La réponse de Peter Jackson (la contre-attaque) :

The Hobbit production has always instituted swift and immediate investigations in to any concerns of any kind over the treatment of animals under its care. A prompt and thorough investigation into the recent unsubstantiated allegations by the American organisation, PETA, in to the ‘hobbling’ of a horse during the making of The Hobbit was undertaken. No evidence of such a practice was found to have occurred at any time. Further, the production contacted the owner of the horse concerned who provided the following statement: “I am 100% happy with the return of Shanghai and his condition. In the term that he was leased he was picked up and returned to me two times. On both occasions there was not a mark on him and he was healthy and happy. He has shown no signs of ill-treatment. I would not hesitate in leasing him to the movie again.”

To date, the only horse wranglers whose treatment of animals fell below the production’s standard of care seem to be the two wranglers who have chosen to level this new accusation on the eve of the premiere of the first Hobbit film and who were dismissed by the production over a year ago. Reports of their actions are documented in several written statements dating back to October 2011.

The production regrets that PETA has chosen to make such a serious accusation, which has distressed many of the dedicated Kiwis who worked with animals on the films - including trainers, wranglers, care-givers, farm workers and animal health care professionals - without properly vetting the source from which they received this information.

The production has been inundated with calls of support as regards to this matter, including the following statements:


FROM: DR JULIA BRYCE BVSc

“From December 2010 till July 2012, this practice was the primary Veterinary care giver for the horses and livestock in the care of “Three Foot Seven”.

During this period we were consulted promptly in cases of injury and illness. We were also consulted routinely about ongoing veterinary care and preventative medicine.

If referral was required to a specialist clinic or Massey Equine Clinic, this occurred promptly. As occurs in normal practice there are incidences and injury which may result in an unfavourable outcome and others that recover completely; like the young goat who fractured a front leg but recovered completely after 6 weeks in a cast and hospital rest, or the rooster who spent two weeks at our clinic with a foot infection.

These and other animals in the care of Three Foot Seven Limited received the best available treatment to ensure their recovery, their welfare and return to good health was paramount to those in charge. At no time were we concerned about the welfare and on-going treatment of animals under our care.”


FROM: JOY GRAY - FARMER

“I was appalled to hear of the wild claims being made in the media by PETA. I and my family own the farm which the Hobbits used to train their animals. Myself, my manager, my children and grand-children saw nothing to make us uncomfortable or give us cause for concern. We all had totally free access to all activities at all times. In fact, the animals were wonderfully looked after, being well-fed, well-housed, and well-treated. As both farmers and dedicated horse people ourselves we would have stood for nothing less. I myself ride horses, all my children rode competitively and now my grandchildren ride.

I was involved in Pony Club for many years and was District Commissioner for the Wellington Pony Club. My manager was totally aware of all that was happening with the Hobbits and he is outraged at these false claims.

The sixty horses, the cattle, oxen, sheep, goats, dogs, pigs, hens etc. were given professional and humane treatment.”


FROM: JED BROPHY - ACTOR (NORI)

“As an actor and animal trainer who has worked on large scale productions here in New Zealand, in particular The Lord of the Rings Trilogy and more recently, The Hobbit, I am flabbergasted to read this morning of the accusations levelled at the production by PETA. With a production as large as The Hobbit, filmed over such an extensive period the care of the animals used in filming was exceptional. The entire time we were on set, and when we were training with the animal wranglers employed to look after and train the animals for filming, I observed no mistreatment - in fact the opposite is true.

The animals were treated with the utmost care and responsibility. The farm in which they were housed had excellent facilities for the care and maintenance of the animals’ health. So much so that I moved my own horse on site so I could ride him for training exercises. At all times on set we had experienced Wranglers and Animal health Authorities on hand and Vets to monitor the welfare of the Animals working for the film. It has been my experience working for this film company that they take every conceivable precaution and employ the very best practitioners in every department and that includes the animal department.

I feel that there is a certain amount of personal vindictiveness levelled at the production from individuals with their own agenda. As is often the case in these situations, organisations will leap at the chance to gain publicity for their cause without seeking the truth. Being an experienced horseman and having worked as a wrangler and rider in the past, I would not have allowed myself to be a part of any production that knowingly employed unsafe practice in the workplace in this way. I can say with absolute certainty the production went out of their way to treat animals with the upmost respect and care.”

Et quand on se mange les bonus de la trilogie du SDA sur les animaux (les chevaux, notamment), même si c'est évidemment monté et subjectif, j'ai du mal à concevoir que l'équipe de tournage pouvait se montrer indélicate et maltraitante, bien au contraire...

[666dvdvore]

quand on sait que le tournage est fini depuis bien longtemps !! On est toujours en droit de se demander pourquoi ce genre d'infos sont divulguer quelques jour avant la sortie d'une telle production ??

Personnellement j'ai du mal à y croire !! vu le nombre d'amoureux des animaux qui travaillent sur ce films, je pene que le scandal aurait éclaté y'a bien longtemps ??

Bref, ce genre d'infos scandaleuse, si vraiment avré, sont tout de même à prendre avec des pincettes.

De plus au vu de la réponse de Peter Jackson, je pense qu'il y'a enguille sous roche !!

[Idematoa]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/fi ... lfs-return

Trad. http://translate.google.fr/translate?sl ... lfs-return

[Idematoa]

post177309817.html#p177309817

[Idematoa]

http://www.elbakin.net/film/news/18060- ... it-video-9

[Idematoa]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/fi ... lfs-return

Trad. http://translate.google.fr/translate?sl ... lfs-return

http://www.elbakin.net/film/news/18061- ... -le-Hobbit

[Idematoa]

Pour les fans...

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/11 ... d-is-that/

Trad. http://translate.google.fr/translate?sl ... is-that%2F

[Yoda]

Le Hobbit en 3D HFR : Une interview de Peter Jackson

http://www.hdnumerique.com/actualite/ar ... ckson.html

[Deanorth]

Ca n'est pas encore officielle pour la date de sortie à la Réunion,mais rhaaa l'attente va être dure.
Par contre, sur à 80% qu'on aura pas de diffusion en 48 img/s.
Mais c'est naif ce que je vais dire, mais à posteriori, lors des sorties BR, ce format HFR sera compatible?

[wookie]

Par contre, sur à 80% qu'on aura pas de diffusion en 48 img/s.

en Metropole c'est sur à 100% et à la réunion à 80% ?

[antislash]

Mais c'est naif ce que je vais dire, mais à posteriori, lors des sorties BR, ce format HFR sera compatible?

Moi je ne vois pas ce qui les empecherait de fabriquer un BR normal en 24is
Ils en feront bien un DVD...

[boonjik]

Par contre, sur à 80% qu'on aura pas de diffusion en 48 img/s.

en Metropole c'est sur à 100% et à la réunion à 80% ?

Dans cette même page, Idematoa a posté un lien sur la disponibilité du HFR en France.
Le groupe Kinepolis proposera ce format d'image pour le Hobbit.

Pionnier en matière d'innovations techniques et cinéphile passionné, Kinepolis vous propose d'être parmi les premiers à découvrir la technologie HFR 3D. Tous nos cinémas* disposent dès à présent de projecteurs 'dernier cri'. Dès le 12 décembre 2012, vous pourrez choisir pour la première fois si vous préférez voir "Le Hobbit : Un Voyage Inattendu" dans son format traditionnel de 24 images par seconde ou dans son format innovant HFR 3D au réalisme exceptionnel.

Kinepolis attache beaucoup d'importance à la technologie, car elle vous permet, à vous spectateur, de vivre plus intensément les émotions du grand écran, exactement de la manière dont le réalisateur l’a imaginé.

[Yoda]

Mais c'est naif ce que je vais dire, mais à posteriori, lors des sorties BR, ce format HFR sera compatible?

Moi je ne vois pas ce qui les empecherait de fabriquer un BR normal en 24is
Ils en feront bien un DVD...

c'est de toute façon ce qu'il vont faire.. c'est plutôt l'inverse qui va être problématique .. il va falloir certainement redéfinir une norme pour faire de futur Blu-ray 48p..


sinon, j'espère surtout que ça sera bien toujours Metropolitan qui se chargera de l'édition Blu-ray, et pas Warner ! parce que sinon au secours !