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beforemidnight a écrit:toujours prévu pour Juin le 7702A ?
sur AVS, SteveH a écrit:In the 8802 thread, I've posted a lot of information including internal pictures and engineering highlights. If you want a good summary, scroll down and read the Marantz write-up here http://www.soundvideo.com/blog/ on my site or go though the cliff note links that Northsky posted. Take note of the Power Point links on my comparison. It also covers some of the layout difference going from the 8801 to the 8802.
Marantz asked me not to post the physical measurements so I honored that request. If something sounds subjectively better, it has to measure better. And the 8802 measures better. Lower jitter, the switching freq noise is outside the audio spectrum, the power supply has much more reserve, the DAC's measure better, the HDAM's measure better in all categories, and the list goes on.
Like everything, the law of diminishing returns is alive and well. The 7702 sounds sooooooooooooo good and the 8802 sounds a notch better. I'd call it appreciable and worth it to many but not "night and day" different. When you double the price, you are not going to double the performance.
That all said, I have never cared about what the THD posted specs are. It's far below the threshold of hearing on about every product ever made. But THD is interrelated with other specs that DO matter. In fact, give me wider bandwidth (which usually raises THD). Again, I don't care which has a lower THD because I cannot hear it anyways. But I do care about the overall noise floor. Anyways, at the end of the day, the question that has to be answered is what does it sound like and are the differences worth it to you? While we are wondering, how do we know someones room or the rest of the audio chain worthy to hear the difference? It's easy to know but these are worthwhile questions to ask. But make no mistake: the 8802A measures better and uses higher grade components and implements more robust sections on the final product.
et toujours sur AVS, SteveH a écrit:There is a worthy difference between the 7701 and the 7702. Much more of a difference between those two and the 7702 and 8802. I sold a lot of 7005's. In the day, they were state of the art. But the 7701 was merely a 7005 with a couple more features. If someone had the budget, I'd tell them to go to the 8801. I maybe sold 4 total 7701's and countless more 8801's. I just didn't believe it was good enough of an upgrade over the 7005 to recommend someone to step up. They would have been wasting their $$'s. Now, the 7702 sounds a good deal better than the 8801 and much better than the 7701 that you own. We are getting some extremely good sound quality out of a $2K retail prepro. I'm tickled. Putting it bluntly, the 7702 is mopping up the competition in this segment. I'm not economically biased, I sell Onkyo (yuck IMHO), Yamaha (nice), and now the Emotiva (very nice but lacks ATMOS etc).
Sound quality aside, the 8802 supports DTS:X, HDCP2.2, HDMI2.0(a), is built in Japan, and has slightly better build quality. Some customers are buying the 7702 with the full intentions of trading in on whatever the replacement happens to be. Others don't care about 4K right now and will be happy with the 7702 for a couple more years. Others are buying the 8802A. So long as your room SQ is good, the rest of the chain makes sense, you have the passion to get to the next level, and of course the budget, the 8802A might be the better way to go. I don't know your system, room, and budget so I cannot comment which makes the most sense.
Hugo S a écrit:re Bonjour,
Une opinion de comparaison 7701/8801/7702/8802 de l'ami Steve qui est un revendeur US particulièrement prolixe avec des des avis comme je les aime, c'est à dire qui ne "sentent" pas forcément la "langue de bois" :
Bon WE,
Hugo
superduke a écrit:Hugo S a écrit:re Bonjour,
Une opinion de comparaison 7701/8801/7702/8802 de l'ami Steve qui est un revendeur US particulièrement prolixe avec des des avis comme je les aime, c'est à dire qui ne "sentent" pas forcément la "langue de bois" :
Bon WE,
Hugo
Salut hugo
J'ai bien compris car tu l'as souvent répété , que le 7702 faisait plus cheap que le 8801 ....OK.......mais quant même , je viens de remarquer qu'il y a pratiquement 4kg d'écart
Pour un preampli ,qui plus est de la même taille et du même fabriquant , ça fait beaucoup , qu'est ce qu'ils ont sorti ?
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